{"id":988,"date":"2011-10-16T04:47:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-16T11:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/16\/weekly-twitter-update-13\/"},"modified":"2011-10-16T04:47:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-16T11:47:00","slug":"weekly-twitter-update-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/16\/weekly-twitter-update-13\/","title":{"rendered":"Weekly Twitter Update"},"content":{"rendered":"<ul class=\"aktt_tweet_digest\">\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a> @dpnem When I was younger &quot;experimental music&quot; (acc&#039;d to some) was for academics, the rest is just noise. Things have changed. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\/statuses\/122893338499235841\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Gurdonark<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123076594754519040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ugly mayhem at @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/airandspace\" class=\"aktt_username\">airandspace<\/a> museum instigated by conservative agent provocateur: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/0okbW4Vr\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/0okbW4Vr<\/a> #<a href=\"http:\/\/search.twitter.com\/search?q=%23ows\" class=\"aktt_hashtag\">ows<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123080248546959361\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a> @dpnem I would say that experimental music never was an academic thing, that it was a bad attitude. This is what changed. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\/statuses\/123090241463652352\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Gurdonark<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123091498395901953\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a> @dpnem I just recalled this kind of thing in the comment about sound art being something for academics. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\/statuses\/123090241463652352\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Gurdonark<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123092042460049409\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a> I meant bad attitude separating &quot;academic experimental music&quot; on one side vs &quot;just noise&quot; on the other. It was a false separation <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\/statuses\/123091761919827968\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Gurdonark<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123092806733529088\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#9829; Consolamentum by Thinking Plague <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/HYuhInUk\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/HYuhInUk<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123094407678406656\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> I agree it is elitism, unfortunately it is promulgated by both sides of the false divide. A two-way street. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\/statuses\/123094343585239040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Le_Berger<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123096510668869632\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Yes! RT: @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a>: @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\" class=\"aktt_username\">vuzhmusic<\/a> @dpnem I favor &quot;sound art&quot; as a working definition for an experience, with no pedigree or degree plan. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123096863296585728\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#9829; Rapture Of The Deep (For Leslie) by Thinking Plague <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/caRkTOQu\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/caRkTOQu<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123101656853397504\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\" class=\"aktt_username\">Maraxnoise<\/a> You&#039;re asking the wrong guy, I&#039;ve never used it. When I do feedback, it&#039;s usually by mic&#039;ing an amp. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\/statuses\/123215694719492096\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Maraxnoise<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123217101866541057\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\" class=\"aktt_username\">Maraxnoise<\/a> I would guess that if you use a mixer, you can control the levels&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\/statuses\/123217628331376640\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Maraxnoise<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123218398699204608\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\" class=\"aktt_username\">Maraxnoise<\/a> &#8230; but I&#039;ve always thought the point of no-input was that you don&#039;t care about the equipment. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Maraxnoise\/statuses\/123217628331376640\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Maraxnoise<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123218487542951938\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>New stuff at Dystimbria! @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> stretches out &amp; gets raspy with his new piece &quot;Cheptel \u00e9parpill\u00e9&quot; Download it: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/tE7ASdCp\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/tE7ASdCp<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123451546393513984\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RT @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> NEW RELEASE &quot;Cheptel \u00e9parpill\u00e9&quot; for @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\" class=\"aktt_username\">vuzhmusic<\/a> &#039;s sublabel Dystimbria somewhere between noise &amp; ambient.  <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/IvgiCaYS\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/IvgiCaYS<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123545637571661824\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RT @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> NEW RELEASE (free download) &quot;Cheptel \u00e9parpill\u00e9&quot; is now out on dystimbria, a sublabel of Vuzh Music The&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/nxgdz7zU\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/nxgdz7zU<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123545976261722112\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/gacougnol\" class=\"aktt_username\">gacougnol<\/a> Thanks for the RT! <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/gacougnol\/statuses\/123511493944807424\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to gacougnol<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123546843308244992\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>I read about the McGurk effect today &amp; had to find out if  it works or not. For me it doesn&#039;t: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/BNApNTJX\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/BNApNTJX<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123550219215437824\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cinchel\" class=\"aktt_username\">cinchel<\/a> I watched a ton of videos and it doesn&#039;t have the slightest effect on me. It worked for you, then? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cinchel\/statuses\/123550341626200064\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to cinchel<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123550592810487808\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cinchel\" class=\"aktt_username\">cinchel<\/a> Fascinating. Supposedly it works on a majority of people. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cinchel\/statuses\/123550836885426176\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to cinchel<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123551534511431680\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> No sweat, happens all the time. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\/statuses\/123555805168545792\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Le_Berger<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123560694116388864\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Timely, I&#039;ve been reading about this guy.  RT @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> Robert Morris on Silence <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/LXtJUiko\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/LXtJUiko<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123588669734010880\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> Perfect.  Thanks for sharing that. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\/statuses\/123575618939011072\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to hecanjog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123592517756260352\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/snooksarmy\" class=\"aktt_username\">snooksarmy<\/a> You will read this: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/LXtJUiko\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/LXtJUiko<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/snooksarmy\/statuses\/123592495891357696\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to snooksarmy<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123592886230069248\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>I&#039;m having a cross btw self-doubt and mortal fear about my project. I. DO. NOT. KNOW. WHAT. I. AM. DOING. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123602581573484544\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>&quot;Are you failing?&quot; <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123602615383764992\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>My Top 3 #<a href=\"http:\/\/search.twitter.com\/search?q=%23lastfm\" class=\"aktt_hashtag\">lastfm<\/a> Artists: Dieter Moebius (25), Jon Hassell (16) &amp; This Heat (11) <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/tvPbaNRK\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/tvPbaNRK<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123791145003257857\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Me too! RT @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/ValhallArts\" class=\"aktt_username\">ValhallArts<\/a> Excited to see the new Ft Collins Museum of Discovery &amp; Science near completion (a State museum-Federally funded) <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123927116860497920\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/newpractice\" class=\"aktt_username\">newpractice<\/a> Oh shit, I do need to get down there to see that Joseph Cornell exhibit. Plus the motion \/ sound exhibit with the Tinguely too. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/newpractice\/statuses\/123923617623977986\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to newpractice<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123928976556167168\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mrdankelly\" class=\"aktt_username\">mrdankelly<\/a> Hey, @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/c_a_harebell\" class=\"aktt_username\">c_a_harebell<\/a> &amp; I have a chance to see your beloved Cornell pieces! <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/IbGepy7K\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/IbGepy7K<\/a> Hope we can get down there for it. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123929625855397888\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ben Burtt visits Disney&#039;s foley collection: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/qR5cjwrP\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/qR5cjwrP<\/a> (about sound design in Wall-E) <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123956020144910337\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>High heels. I do not understand why they are in such common use. They creep me out. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123967200636841984\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/c_a_harebell\" class=\"aktt_username\">c_a_harebell<\/a> Gobble, gobble. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/c_a_harebell\/statuses\/123971197724667904\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to c_a_harebell<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123971903642808320\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Fort Collins folks, now there&#039;s an @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/OccupyFTCollins\" class=\"aktt_username\">OccupyFTCollins<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123972553814458368\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> Well, if residents start clogging the main street of the little farm town I live in, THEN it&#039;s definitely a big deal. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\/statuses\/123972818663768064\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Le_Berger<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123973264832868353\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>There&#039;s also a hashtag for #<a href=\"http:\/\/search.twitter.com\/search?q=%23OccupyFoCo\" class=\"aktt_hashtag\">OccupyFoCo<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123973639140937728\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Auzel gets a mention at Acts of Silence! <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/fP9jEpsm\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/fP9jEpsm<\/a> Thanks @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/dpnem\" class=\"aktt_username\">dpnem<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/123976152711839744\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> Good move, every netlabel person should have a website. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\/statuses\/124166675686887424\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Le_Berger<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124269684794200066\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Every single netlabel person should have their own website. Myspace &amp; Soundcloud don&#039;t count. Some ppl swear by FB, but not me, I won&#039;t go. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124280116758052864\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Read the Auzel review on Acts of Silence: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/fP9jEpsm\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/fP9jEpsm<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124280310924972032\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>People are beside themselves with how great the new tracks by @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/kidfeardive\" class=\"aktt_username\">kidfeardive<\/a> &amp; @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Le_Berger\" class=\"aktt_username\">Le_Berger<\/a> are. Have you heard them yet? <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/tE7ASdCp\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/tE7ASdCp<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124312223165333504\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Just pulled the first potatoes from the garden.  Got three beautiful, big white ones. (Can&#039;t remember the variety name) <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124633314786148354\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mystified131\" class=\"aktt_username\">mystified131<\/a> A couple of them are going on the grill immediately! <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mystified131\/statuses\/124634622389788672\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to mystified131<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124636250639564801\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Just set up a Google+ circle for casual thoughts about sound art that don&#039;t fit on Twitter. Lemme know if you want in. Helps if you&#039;re on G+ <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124646058897838081\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/strangeduck\" class=\"aktt_username\">strangeduck<\/a> Are you on Google+?  If not, I occasionally rant about sound art here on Twitter too&#8230; \ud83d\ude42 <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/strangeduck\/statuses\/124647662069886976\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to strangeduck<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124658824308211712\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/strangeduck\" class=\"aktt_username\">strangeduck<\/a> Ah, woops, I see that you just added me up there.  Will add you to that circle post-haste. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/strangeduck\/statuses\/124647662069886976\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to strangeduck<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124659093376991232\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Contemporary artists are total space gluttons. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124663145770909696\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Reading the overnight tweets by @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/OccupyDenver\" class=\"aktt_username\">OccupyDenver<\/a> as Denver Police dispersed them&#8230; #<a href=\"http:\/\/search.twitter.com\/search?q=%23OWS\" class=\"aktt_hashtag\">OWS<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/124842976542339073\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mrdankelly\" class=\"aktt_username\">mrdankelly<\/a> Love licking that soul batter off the beaters. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mrdankelly\/statuses\/124934111071707136\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to mrdankelly<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125006229604007936\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>I am re-connecting to the band Killing Joke.  Haven&#039;t listened to them in so many years! <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125019069580722177\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Jeezus. Is Obama STILL giving up stuff on the health care law in hopes of a &quot;compromise&quot;? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125032144899809280\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>What&#039;s wrong with the term &quot;experimental music&quot;? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125035447943573505\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> Alright, so why is everyone abandoning it for &quot;sound art&quot;, a term which already has a meaning? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125036780499107841\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125037247228682241\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mystified131\" class=\"aktt_username\">mystified131<\/a> Very good point.  Music is a minefield of a term.  However art is a goddamned NUCLEAR FUCKING BOMB of a term, so why? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/mystified131\/statuses\/125039204097998848\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to mystified131<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125040043827015680\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>My point is that &quot;experimental music&quot; has a history that we can associate with. &quot;Sound art&quot; has a history too. Check before using the term. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125040772394397696\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> It&#039;s not necessarily so controversial in so much as words have actual meaning. To me misuse is not controversy, it&#039;s misuse. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125039748908720128\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125041229615468545\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/LuxFero23\" class=\"aktt_username\">LuxFero23<\/a> It&#039;s a good term to use. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/LuxFero23\/statuses\/125040663187300355\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to LuxFero23<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125041669535055874\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> You should adopt no terminology without being aware of its history and connotations.  Be aware. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125041489691676672\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125041960271626241\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>.@LuxFero23 Some terminology has meanings that go beyond mere &quot;genre&quot; &#8211; it&#039;s important to be aware of what labels you append to yourself <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/LuxFero23\/statuses\/125041877576728576\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to LuxFero23<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125042532315967488\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> &quot;Experimental music&quot; has enough of a history that you can learn from a variety of viewpoints. Best scenario. &quot;Sound art&quot; too <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125042178991984640\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125042916627456000\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\" class=\"aktt_username\">Gurdonark<\/a> Agreed.  \ud83d\ude42 <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Gurdonark\/statuses\/125039090520428544\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Gurdonark<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125043200523116544\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Steve_Hamann\" class=\"aktt_username\">Steve_Hamann<\/a> This is a good point.  Dilution of terminology is problematic. This is why I object to the use of &quot;sound art&quot; from musicians. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Steve_Hamann\/statuses\/125043162220728321\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Steve_Hamann<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125043945829969920\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> The best thing, as with anything, is to expose yourself to as much as possible &amp; arrive at your own POV through the process. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125043985919127552\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125044350005686272\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>To paraphrase Werner Herzog&#039;s advice, if you want to be an experimental music composer, &quot;READ, READ, READ, READ, READ, READ, READ.&quot; <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125044953733799936\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> It&#039;s about understanding. Terms mean things. Experimental music is a good term for us to understand &amp; use. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125044717237964800\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125045419838423040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> Mainly, I&#039;m protesting the use of &quot;sound art&quot; instead of &quot;experimental music&quot;. I think &quot;sound art&quot; is inappropriate. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125045188732256257\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125045807077539840\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Steve_Hamann\" class=\"aktt_username\">Steve_Hamann<\/a> This is another good point, and a good example is what happened to &quot;industrial music&quot;. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Steve_Hamann\/statuses\/125045209368244224\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to Steve_Hamann<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125045955224535040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> If one understood that &quot;sound art&quot; arrives from a confluence of contemporary visual art practice and sonic art practice&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125045188732256257\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125046316295401472\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> &#8230; then &quot;sound art&quot; is obviously inappropriate from a netlabel release of experimental music. &#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125045188732256257\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125046465474203648\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> &#8230; from there arises the question, what was wrong with the term &quot;experimental music&quot; that one had to search elsewhere? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125045188732256257\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125046612937543680\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> I think it is appropriate that the netlabel community be a forum for experimental music. Where else would it go? <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125047170742231040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125047656610398208\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\" class=\"aktt_username\">saffronslumber<\/a> The best way a netlabel can stand out is by 1) release good material 2) engage the community. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/saffronslumber\/statuses\/125047421079269377\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to saffronslumber<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125048737419640832\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/LuxFero23\" class=\"aktt_username\">LuxFero23<\/a> I haven&#039;t listened to them since sometime in the 90s. Great band, yeah! <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/LuxFero23\/statuses\/125040341354168320\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to LuxFero23<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125049454855327745\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/ValhallArts\" class=\"aktt_username\">ValhallArts<\/a> It&#039;s a fine concept with clear history &amp; definablility that some people (inexplicably) are shying away from. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/ValhallArts\/statuses\/125062692921815040\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to ValhallArts<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125063328505671680\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/disquiet\" class=\"aktt_username\">disquiet<\/a> Good question. You mean just marking the book as read, but not rating at all? I&#039;d guess that doesn&#039;t count in the averaging. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/disquiet\/statuses\/125306802836471808\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to disquiet<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125315772800184321\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Hm. Looks like I might want to pick up the new Pole album, sounds good: <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/CibBu7m4\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/t.co\/CibBu7m4<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125373148869832704\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> Music is often empty <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\/statuses\/125396268867522561\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to hecanjog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125397132864786432\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> Music is a set of rails. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\/statuses\/125397091261489152\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to hecanjog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125397586084511745\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> Music is, (as spirit is), a bone. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\/statuses\/125397828083261440\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to hecanjog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125398048997261312\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>@<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\" class=\"aktt_username\">hecanjog<\/a> On the other hand, music is the wind between the grass. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hecanjog\/statuses\/125397828083261440\" class=\"aktt_tweet_reply\">in reply to hecanjog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125398397652963328\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ambitious. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125404662953283584\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Is it buy another book about sound art, or is it save the forty dollars?  Books are &#039;spensive. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vuzhmusic\/statuses\/125406793479372800\" class=\"aktt_tweet_time\">#<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"aktt_credit\">Powered by <a href=\"http:\/\/alexking.org\/projects\/wordpress\">Twitter Tools<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>@Gurdonark @dpnem When I was younger &quot;experimental music&quot; (acc&#039;d to some) was for academics, the rest is just noise. Things have changed. in reply to Gurdonark # Ugly mayhem at @airandspace museum instigated by conservative agent provocateur: http:\/\/t.co\/0okbW4Vr #ows # @Gurdonark @dpnem I would say that experimental music never was an academic thing, that it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[2275],"class_list":["post-988","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-twitter"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3eIxq-fW","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/988"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=988"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/988\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=988"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=988"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vuzhmusic.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=988"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}